many thanks Judith, great to be on board! Unfortunately I won't be at the meeting in July, as I had already booked a holiday before joining the project. I think we would like to find out more about overlaps and synergies between our 2 pathfinder projects, with particular reference to some of the research we are about to commission. Maybe the best 1st stop is a telephone conversation? Perhaps you can send your phone number to me at hilarynicoll@hotmail.com, and let me know a good time to speak? thanks again, Hilary